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Monday, 16 December 2013

Social media and a question about religion... And the after effects of said question

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Craig DeCraene
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  • If Jesus was from the Middle East, why is he depicted as a white guy?
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    • Jason Kotak because when something is imaginary it can be whatever color you want
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    • Chris Bennett There are religions and beliefs far older than Christianity. I believe none of them
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    • Ron Plamondon If he was imaginary then why is it December 16, 2013 "AD" ? Or maybe the imaginary reference means something else?
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    • Chris Bennett Its a label like any other. Gotta call it something!
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    • Ron Plamondon So 2000 years ago someone said.....lets call this AD and we got us a label?
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    • Julian Plamondon I see a shit storm a brewin'.
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    • Craig DeCraene Me too
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    • Chris Bennett Well the dinosaurs sure as fuck didn't label their time period 6000000 BC. And when the next religion or belief or whatever comes along then a new timeline and new name will also surface
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    • Chris Bennett Or did I miss the email where god said "okay guys heads up. Everything before or after the sacrifice of my one begotten son doesn't matter so the name of everything now revolves around it"
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    • Jamie Armstrong A man came into the my store the other day and from unseen corner I said "HELLO THERE" he looked around the store in a panic and then he looked up! I appeared before him and he said "Whoa there you are, you had me looking to the sky thinking God was a woman" I replied "I am"
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    • Ron Plamondon My point Chris if we can keep it on an emotionally level plain is that whether or not I am religious I think history shows that a person did walk the planet and said he was the son of god and history shows even from Roman history that he existed. As I said I am not coming from a religious standpoint but rather a historical one. There is history of his disciples walking accross Europe to spread the word. We track time from this period. Roman history mentions it and documents it. And as a PS the Old Testament is a book of fairy tales to help you with judgements you may make of me.
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    • Ron Plamondon And at the time I am sure he was just the most believeable son of god of many.
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    • Chris Bennett What makes Christianity more believable than any other religion? Lots of people walked the planet spouting bipolar gibberish back in the day. And human beings on a par were a lot stupider as well. I've watched Chris angel walk on water and he made it look real, although it is indeed an illusion
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    • Julian Plamondon Where's the whisk? I can't seem to find it. Craig has it!
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    • Ron Plamondon But only one made the impact still felt today. Chris Angel makes a lot of money...bet he could make more if he said he was the second coming.
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    • Chris Bennett Its a heavy impact if you want it to be. I don't believe it because there's no actual proof, just faith. I don't follow nor pay heed to scripture nor sermons, except for what I had no choice but to listen to as a kid
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    • Chris Bennett Dam it Craig I'm starting to think you like stirring the shit pot.
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    • Ron Plamondon What do I want Chris? I am questioning that someone is saying Jesus was imaginary. When as I have stated above there is recorded history outside the new testiment to his existence.
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    • Julian Plamondon That is what Craig is good at.
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    • Ron Plamondon OH Chris don't flatter the originators. If you want to get all emotional about a discussion that is up to you. I am having a conversation.
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    • Craig DeCraene I didn't stir shit, I asked a simple question... Y'all went out to left field and started debating his existence and beliefs...
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    • Julian Plamondon More like a diarrhea storm now.
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    • Lloyd Watt jesus was a jew
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    • Chris Bennett You put shit, a spoon, and a big old' bowl in the center of the room!
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    • Julian Plamondon And a fan. Don't forget the fan man.
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    • Chris Bennett I'm so emotional 
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    • Jamie Armstrong Lol! I must weigh in here...because clearly nobody has answered or attempted to answer why Jesus was a white boy! The Middle East is and always has been a biblical apocalypse! You have Jews, Muslims, Christians etc all trying to live harmoniously! Jesus is the son of God in some religions while in other religions the son of they're god is known by another name. And please don't forget all the tribes in the bible! And the different colours do their skin! Depending on your location depends on the colour of Jesus's skin!
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    • Chris Bennett Well yeah.... That's true. I assume in mexico Jesus has a sombrero and a jug of tequila
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    • Julian Plamondon How the hell did we get back on topic? Back to talking shit storm man.
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    • Chris Bennett Do I have to Julia?
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    • Julian Plamondon No that's fine Chrissy. Carry on.
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    • Drew Johnston jesus is fake... so is walking on water, resurrecting dead ppl after three days, healing sick ppl by touching them, and any other bogus claims that came from that BOOK!!!! A BOOOK!!!!!
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    • Ron Plamondon And all I was doing was questioning why so many people would say its imaginary when there is history to support the existence of this person at this time period. Not standing on a soapbox of religion just questioning why with so much evidence of existence why so many would say imaginary? And still dont have that answer. One side says faith says X and the other side is basing a faith based process on Y. eh...interesting.
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    • Candace Pigeon Oh my
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    • Casey Ladoski I thought I seen Jesus riding his bike in Ashcroft but it turned out to be James Ried. I kinda like that guy.
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    • Drew Johnston you wanna have faith in something? have faith in the hope that you will die with enough money in your bank account to cover your own funeral costs... have faith that your kids grow up to be successful, and don't hate your guts... have faith that your neighbor isn't a homicidal maniac!! but hey, if you want to have faith in a 2,000 year old book written by "fiction" writers, then by all means help yourself!!!!!
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    • Candace Pigeon Oh Clancy
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    • Drew Johnston yeah ron, theres also ACTUAL PROOF that dinosaurs have walked this earth... or were all those bones put there by god to "test our faith"??
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    • Drew Johnston lol
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    • Ron Plamondon Drew where in any of my comments have I said I am religious? It is interesting to see how people are projecting when I am actually coming from a perspective of historical documented accounts.
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    • Ron Plamondon Not to mention that we actually count time from this period.
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    • Chrissy Schmitz Craig, I can speak from personal experience....you mention the word "Jesus" and a flood gate opens lol
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    • Drew Johnston I never said you were either ron, but the "proof" of existence you talk about is all in books... so its not ACTUAL proof!
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    • Candace Pigeon Wow. Crazy
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    • Chrissy Schmitz One word....Zeitgeist
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    • Jamie Armstrong You know...this is getting somewhat humorous to me with all the talk of "Jesus" not existing! Now before you get your hackles up hear me out! We have had a history of war mostly based in religious persecution, we have martyrs, we have pagans, we have persecutors all based on who believes they're "god" "deity" "ruler" whatever is the "ONE" who we all need to bow down to! If one believes no higher power exists I believe in a sense one would be calling 10's of millions of people or more "crazy" and that is precisely what starts these wars! Everyone believing their higher power is the one we ALL need to believe in! We all have our own beliefs some choose to be Atheist, some Agnostic and others have their own belief or religion!
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    • Julian Plamondon I need a giant whoopie cushion to jump on right about now.
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    • Brandi de Bruijn I believe he was a real guy... and a damn good con artist! He was definitely high on himself I mean he thought his mother was a virgin and he himself "God's gift to the world" lol
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    • Chris Bennett I'm gonna have a flaming Jesus next time I go to the pub
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    • Ron Plamondon Check out the El Comino De Santiago. (the way of St James) There is history of the Disciples spreading out to spread the word in this time period. Roman history documents it or maybe it was just Constantiople after conversion saying ok you Christians what day to we make today? Is our date today in the history books. I am simply questioning things myself and that BC and AD have always interested me.
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    • Ron Plamondon Or maybe the disciples were simply starting Amercian culture conspiracy theory.
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    • Tyrone Laskey Anyone want to talk politics???
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    • Julian Plamondon Yes!!! How about those Liberals!
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    • Julian Plamondon Why are most of the Liberals white guys?
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    • Ron Plamondon I am fair and balanced I get my politics from FOX.
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    • Drew Johnston for sure, im not doggin on anybody jamie... this is just my point of view on religion... I think its a hoax, and billions have been killed over it.. it disgusts me that wars are waged over someone from a book written by a human.. and if past behavior h...See More
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    • Drew Johnston good convo people, it was fun.
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    • Julian Plamondon No takers on the Libs hey? Well then, I'm done.
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    • Chris Bennett Was Jesus a liberal?
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    • Craig DeCraene Jesus build my hot rod...
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    • Craig DeCraene And he was a carpenter
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    • Craig DeCraene Now in going to stir the pot, did a little research, did you know that the bible doesn't mention algae...
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    • Drew Johnston im a little more surprised that it didn't mention anything about Star Trek??
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    • Craig DeCraene Dinosaurs and the Bible
      The story of Creation in Genesis 1 tells of a God who created sea life as well as birds on the fifth day and the rest of the animals on the sixth day.

      Although reptiles are listed among the animals created, dinosaurs are not specifically mentioned. This should not surprise us, because in Moses’ day (the author of the book of Genesis), the word dinosaur did not exist, nor was he under the obligation to specifically mention them; he didn’t mention numerous other groups of animals as well. For example, Genesis does not mention beetles, sharks, starfish, moss, algae, or any number of other groups of organisms.

      The fact that, in the Bible, dinosaurs were not mentioned by name does not prove that God did not create them; nor does the strange appearance that they have in museum replicas. Currently, there are many animals just as strange in appearance as dinosaurs—consider deep-sea anglerfish, platypuses, and kangaroos—and they don’t draw that much attention. Some people believe that dinosaurs appeared as the result of the curse after Adam’s and Eve’s sin, but the Bible does not shed any light on this, nor does it explicitly identify which animals changed as a result of sin and about what kind of changes these might have been.

      Source: 
      https://www.ministrymagazine.org/.../what-does-the-bible...
      What does the Bible say about dinosaurs? - Ministry Magazine
      www.ministrymagazine.org
      Some years ago, after I had lectured to Adventist university students and youngprofessionals, a pastor approached me and asked, "Could you please talk to my wife and convince her that dinosaurs really did exist?" This request was not a joke.
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    • Drew Johnston lmao!!!
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    • Chris Bennett it just doesn't accumulate to anything logical from my perspective. none of the theories on origin or otherwise
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    • Drew Johnston I agree benoit
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    • Drew Johnston its a bunch of mumbo jumbo...
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    • Ron Plamondon I am not the naive one to say you did not get your intended out come from your original query. Well done but its not rocket science. I was just interested in the imaginary stuff. Its kind of like saying Mohamed was imaginary. And i have been to his home town. And that will be seen as a joke by many but its true. History is what it is in some circumstances.
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    • Drew Johnston the book told you that's where his home is??? hmmm
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    • Chris Bennett Your facts are entirely based on faith Ron, history is written by the victors, and I guess Christianity won, to some extent. The world has changed a lot since then.... But in conclusion we are all free to believe more or less whatever we want, as Craig stated long ago
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    • Ron Plamondon When did Constantiople make Christianity the norm Chris? How many centuries was it after the imaginary one was around. And for how many centuries were the Christians the losers before Constantiople said hey you guys are onto something?
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    • Chris Bennett I honestly don't care. I keep trying to bring this to a quiet ending with an agreement to disagree but you insist on biting. You win Ron, Jesus was a grand old fellow
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    • Ron Plamondon Chris the topic was Jesus being imaginary. Not is god real.
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    • Chris Bennett No the topic was why is Jesus white. Someone else said imaginary and you rolled with it
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    • Drew Johnston actually ron the topic was why jesus is white...
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    • Ron Plamondon Well Chris not sure what you expect when you tell me reading history is faith based. Going to the places in teh world where the history existed is faith based. What exactly did you expect? I think everyone lost here. No one can explain why Christ is imaginary. I am bummed out.
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    • Drew Johnston lol the only winners are the ones who are sure of their beliefs, whatever those beliefs are.
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    • Ron Plamondon Correction I slung all of you along in a journey then. touche.
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    • Chris Bennett It was a fun ride
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    • Ron Plamondon still bummed out.
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    • Ron Plamondon I want him to be imaginary so I can be accepted.
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    • Drew Johnston I enjoyed myself thoroughly, and am quite the opposite of bummed out!!
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    • Ron Plamondon Ya but you don't have your driving needs unsatisfied. lol
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    • Ron Plamondon I would feel a lot better if it was Dec 16, 4,589,987,876 on the calendar though.
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    • Drew Johnston atleast it wouldn't be a lie
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    • Drew Johnston give it up ron...
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    • Jamie Armstrong All right, all right! Who believes in Christmas? And don't even think about giving me some lame ass excuse as to why Christmas came to be!
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    • Drew Johnston who cares how it was created... two words.. BOOZE, PRESENTS!!
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    • Craig DeCraene What are you celebrating? Not someone birth are you?
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    • Jamie Armstrong Drew Johnston, shame on you
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    • Drew Johnston lol really?? did I hurt somebodys feelings?
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    • Drew Johnston obviously its chris's birthday, its right in the name!!!!
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    • Drew Johnston lmao
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    • Ron Plamondon why is Santa White?
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    • Drew Johnston he's only white at the beginning of the night... trust me, after a few billion chimneys, he's BLACK when he gets home!!!
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    • Ron Plamondon lol Drew....ya at the end of the night there is a kid waiting up and this thing pops out of the chimeny and the kids goes ....WTF is THAT and runs away.
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    • Drew Johnston probably most adults too!!
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    • Ron Plamondon You believe in Santa? lol touche
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    • Drew Johnston lol as much as I do jesus
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    • Chris Bennett Maybe..... Jesus and Santa are the same..... (Gasp)
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    • Jason Kotak they made jesus white because when they did the first drawing of him white was the only crayon left in the box.
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    • Jason Kotak and political correctness dictates what is acceptable for mass consumption, which is why theres an elf on the fucking shelf and santa claus flies solo instead of having zwarte piet or krampus with him....
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